Editing Capability Yamaha PSR S 770/775

[Akhil]

Please share your ideas.....

How about the Sound (Voice/Patch/Tone) Editing Capability of Yamaha PSR S 770/775?

Can we create any custom sounds out of the onboard sounds(just as in Korg pa series)? Can it be tweaked to sound punchy for live?

 

[Biggles]

Akhil, have you bought a Yamaha?

I did offer advice to you last month.

If you look at Yamaha Global on YouTube there is some tutorials on the S770.

You can also download the manual.

If all else fails buy a PA700.

 

[SeaGtGruff]

You can edit the voice parameters to a certain extent, changing attack/release times, filter cutoff/resonance, and other settings, but that doesn't change the actual sound samples, just how they're played. Even so, you can make the built-in voices sound very different than normal.

You can also load new voices, or even use the YEM software to create new voices-- meaning new sound samples.

 

[Akhil]

Akhil, have you bought a Yamaha?

I did offer advice to you last month.

If you look at Yamaha Global on YouTube there is some tutorials on the S770.

You can also download the manual.

If all else fails buy a PA700.

Biggles, you remember me Thanks.

Haven't bought one so far.

S775 is less priced than Pa700, which is considerable to me.

But something that confuses is the user opinions which I've got.
1) Some users says Yamaha S775(unlike the older models) has better sound editing options; even as Korg pa series provides., while others says that it doesn't have that much; only some basic things.
2) Another opinion is; the basic sound sample in S775 is of less quality(in layman terms) than that in Pa700.

It is it possible to make the S775 sound best with some tweaking despite of all these? That was a final thought before decision.

 

[Akhil]

You can edit the voice parameters to a certain extent, changing attack/release times, filter cutoff/resonance, and other settings, but that doesn't change the actual sound samples, just how they're played. Even so, you can make the built-in voices sound very different than normal.

You can also load new voices, or even use the YEM software to create new voices-- meaning new sound samples.

Thank you.

 

[SeaGtGruff]

I'm not sure what differences there are supposed to be between the voice-editing options on the PSR-S770 versus the PSR-S775. I thought they were basically the same in that respect. I believe the PSR-S770 does have at least one additional option with regard to the portamento feature. The best thing to do would be to go to Yamaha's site and download the various manuals for the two models so you can see what differences there are.

 

[Biggles]

I do not know enough about the S7xx to offer detailed advice on its sound editing capabilities but do be aware that there is now the new SX models which are now available and hence must cast doubt on how long the S models will continue. Videos on the SX models are on the Yamaha website

Please watch this comparison which was made by my local Music Store who are main agents for Korg, Yamaha, Roland and Nord.

Personally to me the Korg blows the Yamaha out of the water, and whilst it is about the next models up the sounds of the 700 are very similar.

The 700 is worth the price difference imho.

As Michael suggests, research on the models and add in a visit to a Music Store to test out the models will help you greatly.

I have had my PA700 for three years and love it but not trade it in for anything other than another Korg.

One huge benefit of Korg is product support which does just that plus both Korg UK and Korg USA hold monthly live webinar and Q&A sessions where the demo the features and the custom tweaks that can be applied.

Finally if you can provide more information on what precisely you are seeking then perhaps more specific advice can be given.

 

[Akhil]

I'm not sure what differences there are supposed to be between the voice-editing options on the PSR-S770 versus the PSR-S775. I thought they were basically the same in that respect. I believe the PSR-S770 does have at least one additional option with regard to the portamento feature. The best thing to do would be to go to Yamaha's site and download the various manuals for the two models so you can see what differences there are.

sure, I'd refer to the user manuals. Thanks again

 

[Akhil]

I do not know enough about the S7xx to offer detailed advice on its sound editing capabilities but do be aware that there is now the new SX models which are now available and hence must cast doubt on how long the S models will continue. Videos on the SX models are on the Yamaha website

Please watch this comparison which was made by my local Music Store who are main agents for Korg, Yamaha, Roland and Nord.

Personally to me the Korg blows the Yamaha out of the water, and whilst it is about the next models up the sounds of the 700 are very similar.

The 700 is worth the price difference imho.

As Michael suggests, research on the models and add in a visit to a Music Store to test out the models will help you greatly.

I have had my PA700 for three years and love it but not trade it in for anything other than another Korg.

One huge benefit of Korg is product support which does just that plus both Korg UK and Korg USA hold monthly live webinar and Q&A sessions where the demo the features and the custom tweaks that can be applied.

Finally if you can provide more information on what precisely you are seeking then perhaps more specific advice can be given.

I appreciate that.

Actually my requirement is an arranger keyboard with better acoustic sounds(piano, guitars, woodwinds) and better drum sounds; plus, tone editing options and ability to add user sounds. It is aimed at live performances(one-man-band).

For which I'd considered Yamaha PSR S775, Roland E-A7 & Korg pa600/700.

 

[Biggles]

Jeremy See has a couple of very good videos you may like to watch

In the second video he is analysis this video which was made by Justin at A&C Hamilton who is the Sales guy who sold me my PA, so here is their video

Still will not answer your editing question but maybe since we cannot the PSR S forum can help.

 

[Akhil]

Jeremy See has a couple of very good videos you may like to watch

In the second video he is analysis this video which was made by Justin at A&C Hamilton who is the Sales guy who sold me my PA, so here is their video

Still will not answer your editing question but maybe since we cannot the PSR S forum can help.

Thank you for sharing the information.

 

[Rayblewit]

Please watch this comparison which was made by my local Music Store

That comparison video by A&C Hamilton certainly gives Korg the edge over Yamaha on sound!
The music stores in my city focus on one or two brands only. The Yamaha store dooes not sell Korg and the Korg store does not sell Yamaha.
Makes it hard for me to compare.
I apreciate that vid Col.
The Korg has a touch screen too and maybe Yamaha doesn't?

 

[Biggles]

Ray
I am lucky here in the UK our Music Stores do not tend to stock one make but some are more specialist than others.

As I have often said A&C Hamilton are in Preston which is where I live and they are 15 minutes drive away. Go in there and you will get great advice which is impartial and hence no bias. As I have often said I test played the Korg against the Yamaha S770 and it was Justin who you see in the video who helped me and he did struggle a bit as at the time the PA700 was brand spanking new at that time.

If I remember right you are correct about the touch screen, the Yamaha does not have one whereas the Korg does.

The Yamaha is a capable keyboard it just did not do it for me being shrill in the trebble and lacking in the bass and with inferior build quality if materials and construction. The new SX range does seem to have addressed these issues but other comparisons still imho place it in second place.

One thing in Yamahas favour is the quality if their piano sounds.

The next Korg webinar is on the 14th November and it is all on the new special edition of the PA700 so that should be well worth watching for anyone interested in buying a PA

 

[SeaGtGruff]

The PSR-SX and Genos models from Yamaha have touch screens. From what I've heard, PSR-S owners who made the switch to PSR-SX have been very happy.

 

[Biggles]

One of the very good features of the new breed of Yamaha arrangers is the ability to have four separate chord sequences programmed into a Style. This is an excellent feature to use where you really need the left hand to use the joystick of activate effects like glissando or Pads.

 

[Akhil]

Thank you everyone for your words.

While I'm about to decide on Yamaha PSR S775(pref. as it is less priced; budget constraints), someone's told me "the basic sample bit-rate of PSR S775 is inferior to that of Korg pa700". Is it?

Please share your ideas.

Thanks.

 

[Rayblewit]

"the basic sample bit-rate

What on earth is a basic sample bit rate?

 

[Biggles]

What on earth is a basic sample bit rate?

All our keyboards use samples for each instrument sound they produce.

Basically it is a small file that is generated during the sampling process by the manufacturer, this sample file is then applied to the keyboard notes to produce the instrument sound.

Probably if I use a visual analogy it may help more, low sample bit rate is the B&W TV’s of the 50’s and 60’s with medium bitrate being colour TV’s of the 80’s & 90’s and with the HD TV’s of today being high bit rate.

Your CD collection was sampled at 44kHz per second.

Digital MP3 files have various sample rates with 96bps sounding poor and 320bps sounds much better but the trade ff is low bit rate or sampling rate is low file size and high bit rate is large file size.

So the sample files that Yamaha use in a Montage will be on the large size and the same instrument sound in an E series will be at the low end of the sample size spectrum.

Hope this makes sense.

 

[Akhil]

All our keyboards use samples for each instrument sound they produce.

Basically it is a small file that is generated during the sampling process by the manufacturer, this sample file is then applied to the keyboard notes to produce the instrument sound.

Probably if I use a visual analogy it may help more, low sample bit rate is the B&W TV’s of the 50’s and 60’s with medium bitrate being colour TV’s of the 80’s & 90’s and with the HD TV’s of today being high bit rate.

Your CD collection was sampled at 44kHz per second.

Digital MP3 files have various sample rates with 96bps sounding poor and 320bps sounds much better but the trade ff is low bit rate or sampling rate is low file size and high bit rate is large file size.

So the sample files that Yamaha use in a Montage will be on the large size and the same instrument sound in an E series will be at the low end of the sample size spectrum.

Hope this makes sense.

sample bit-rate of PSR S775 is inferior to that of Korg pa700". Is it?

Dear Col.
Based on your explanation, is this true?

 

[Biggles]

That I do not know, my explanation was on sampling in general.

It should not really matter if one is greater than the other since it is more than bit rate that determines how good the tone of the sample concerned is.

You have a tough choice to make.

I cannot advise any further on the features and capabilities of any Yamaha model, I simply do not know enough about them to give advice on the Pros and Cons of each model you are considering.