Hpw to convert files?

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How can I convert newer style files to be red by my PSR1500?
I've always read at several posts that styles are backward compatible but not the other way round. So that means it would not be possible. The only way would be to rebuild by stealing patterns from the newer styles to the old, although that would be a lot of work. Correct me if I'm wrong...
 

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What do you mean when you say they can't be read? Do you mean read by the keyboard, or read by the JoSoSoft programs?

There are several ways that newer style files and older style files can differ, so you might need to make several changes to a newer style file when converting it into an older style file format that will work on an older keyboard model.

First, you should check the file extension and change it if needed. As far as I could see, the PSR-3000/1500 Owner's Manual doesn't mention which file extensions are recognized, so it might be best to edit a style on the keyboard, save it to whatever media you're using, and see what the file extension is; I'm guessing it will be ".STY" but you should verify that. Many newer style files can use a variety of other file extensions, so start by changing the file's extension to ".STY" or whatever the PSR-1500 uses.

Second, you may need to edit the filename to remove any extra characters which might confuse the PSR-1500. In particular, many newer keyboard models add letters and numbers to the filenames of styles, preceded by a period-- e.g., "RockBallad.A123.STY"-- and these can confuse older keyboard models because they see the first period and assume that the file extension is ".A123.STY" which is not a recognized file extension. Changing the filename to remove any extra periods (there should be one and only one period, just before the three-character extension) might be necessary so the keyboard doesn't ignore the file as being of an unknown type.

Third, the manual doesn't mention anything about which style file formats can be used, so presumably the PSR-1500 predates the SFF2 (a.k.a. SFF-GE) style file format. Use JoSoSoft's programs to convert SFF2 files to SFF1-- I think they let you do this for an entire folder of files so you don't need to do one file at a time.

You might also need to convert the resulting SFF1 files to one of the older SFF variations. I'm not sure what the specifics are or what the PSR-1500 requires, so some experimentation might be needed.

The PSR-1500 may have limitations involving maximum file sizes or which types of style sections can be used, so you might need to remove any unusable style sections to help reduce the file sizes.

Also, you'll almost certainly need to revoice the style files so they don't try to use any voices which the PSR-1500 doesn't have.
 
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What do you mean when you say they can't be read? Do you mean read by the keyboard, or read by the JoSoSoft programs?

There are several ways that newer style files and older style files can differ, so you might need to make several changes to a newer style file when converting it into an older style file format that will work on an older keyboard model.

First, you should check the file extension and change it if needed. As far as I could see, the PSR-3000/1500 Owner's Manual doesn't mention which file extensions are recognized, so it might be best to edit a style on the keyboard, save it to whatever media you're using, and see what the file extension is; I'm guessing it will be ".STY" but you should verify that. Many newer style files can use a variety of other file extensions, so start by changing the file's extension to ".STY" or whatever the PSR-1500 uses.

Second, you may need to edit the filename to remove any extra characters which might confuse the PSR-1500. In particular, many newer keyboard models add letters and numbers to the filenames of styles, preceded by a period-- e.g., "RockBallad.A123.STY"-- and these can confuse older keyboard models because they see the first period and assume that the file extension is ".A123.STY" which is not a recognized file extension. Changing the filename to remove any extra periods (there should be one and only one period, just before the three-character extension) might be necessary so the keyboard doesn't ignore the file as being of an unknown type.

Third, the manual doesn't mention anything about which style file formats can be used, so presumably the PSR-1500 predates the SFF2 (a.k.a. SFF-GE) style file format. Use JoSoSoft's programs to convert SFF2 files to SFF1-- I think they let you do this for an entire folder of files so you don't need to do one file at a time.

You might also need to convert the resulting SFF1 files to one of the older SFF variations. I'm not sure what the specifics are or what the PSR-1500 requires, so some experimentation might be needed.

The PSR-1500 may have limitations involving maximum file sizes or which types of style sections can be used, so you might need to remove any unusable style sections to help reduce the file sizes.

Also, you'll almost certainly need to revoice the style files so they don't try to use any voices which the PSR-1500 doesn't have.
Well, you gave me some homework to do.
Thanks.
 

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