Regarding Recording of my yamaha keyboard on computer

[Mohit]

Hello I have connected my yamaha psr e353 to the computer by using usb to host cable. It is detected on computer but I am unable to record it on my computer. how can I record it's music on my computer? do I need to download and install any software ? please suggest

 

[Alchemy]

Until someone knowledgeable comes along, I'll just say that I have recorded to PC either through the sound card using the audio plugs to the free audacity software or through the USB midi interface (which sounds like you have) to the free anvil studio software (records as midi sheet/track). The latter shoud play back to your instrument exactly as you played but on PC by whatever software synth you have on the PC. This is a beginners method I suppose.

 

[Fred Coulter]

According to the Computer Related Operations manual, the instrument doesn't support audio over USB. So, if you want to record the keyboard's audio (as opposed to MIDI), you'll need to connect the audio output of the keyboard to the audio input of the computer. This won't get you the highest fidelity, but it's a start. For software, there's a bunch of free software out there, but you probably already have some sort of sound recorder on your computer.

For specific software suggestions, you'll need to tell us what kind of computer & operating system you're using. If you want better fidelity, you may need to invest in an audio interface. They range in price from cheap to very pricy.

MIDI is a music performance description language. What key is pressed down, at what velocity. What key is released. What control is being tweeked. Etc. Great if the computer has it's own sound generating software. Not so much if you're trying to get the sound from your keyboard on your computer.

 

[Alchemy]

Yes, I see you do not have midi ports but you do have USB to host. The first place I looked on the web said that USB to host is indeed a substitute for midi connections. I don't have USB to host or "straight USB" so I'm not sure how it works. Even if the USB will not support plain audio as Fred states I would expect it to support midi to any midi software, composers etc. For just recording audio, yes, audio out on your keyboard to audio in on your PC and if you don't have a windows sound recorder there are plenty of cheap or free audio recorders and audio editors on download.com which are better.

 

[SeaGtGruff]

My advice is to get a "real DAW" rather than using Audacity, because it will let you record either audio or MIDI tracks.

If you want to record the actual audio output of your keyboard, you'll need to connect it to your computer using an audio cable-- or if you can afford it, buy a USB audio interface so you can connect the keyboard to the audio interface via audio cable, then connect the audio interface to the computer via USB cable.

Note that the keyboard's PHONES/OUTPUT jack takes a 1/4" TRS (i.e., stereo) audio plug, whereas the computer's MIC jack takes a 1/8" plug, so you'll need to either get an audio cable with a 1/4" plug on one end and a 1/8" plug on the other end (they do make those, but you'll probably have to order it online), or get an audio cable with either 1/4" or 1/8" plugs on both ends, then get a 1/4"-to-1/8" or 1/8"-to-1/4" adaptor to stick on one end of the cable.

 

[Alchemy]

I'm wondering what the issue would be with the manufacturer making the usb audio capable. I'm thinking that they do have USB mics so PC's should be USB audio capable and likely have drivers? Then from there it would seem to be just a matter, in raw layman terms, of jumping the audio out to the usb and maybe using "filters" if necessary? If my thoughts are anywhere close at all it seems there might already be a device which would do the trick? (audio in, usb in, usb out?) I suppose if so, it might need to come with it's own software to decipher the usb/PC input?

 

[SeaGtGruff]

Yamaha appears to be adding USB audio to their newer models-- e.g., the new PSR-E453 and PSR-EW400 have it, as well as the new MX49 and MK61 "version 2" synths. And some of their other synth models have had it for at least a few years now.

I don't think this is something that can be hacked into place on an older model-- as far as I know, the keyboard has to be built/wired that way internally.

 

[happyrat1]

The tricky part is that USB Audio/MIDI are still not USB MIDI Class Compliant.

USB Audio/MIDI interfaces do exist on some brands, notably upper tier Yamahas and possibly a few Rolands but the problem is that they require ASIO drivers for which there is still no current standard.

As long as each manufacturer is doing their own thing and writing proprietary drivers for each one it remains a hit or miss sort of thing.

Gary

 

[Alchemy]

The tricky part is that USB Audio/MIDI are still not USB MIDI Class Compliant.

USB Audio/MIDI interfaces do exist on some brands, notably upper tier Yamahas and possibly a few Rolands but the problem is that they require ASIO drivers for which there is still no current standard.

As long as each manufacturer is doing their own thing and writing proprietary drivers for each one it remains a hit or miss sort of thing.

Gary

Is there an external interface?

 

[happyrat1]

It's just a standard USB AB connector on these models. Visually identical to any other USB MIDI interface.

The differences are all in the internal logic of the driver and hardware design.

Gary

 

[happyrat1]

Ya know, if ya REALLY want to send Audio via USB from your keyboard on any standard USB MIDI Class Compliant Keyboard all you have to do is feed the line outs to any standard USB Soundcard and plug it into a second USB port on your computer.

Other than saving a cable and a port there's really no advantage to combining the two.

Gary

 

[happyrat1]

Personally I have my audio feeding directly to my computer's soundcard on my setup.

But I could just as easily drop a couple hundred on a fancy USB Audio Interface if I felt like blowing the cash for no good reason

https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-UMC204HD-BEHRINGER-U-PHORIA/dp/B00QHURLCW

Gary

 

[Alchemy]

I knew it! You wear a white lab coat and saftey glasses too don't you.

 

[happyrat1]

Actually I wear a grey straight jacket with "Property of the Ministry of Health" written on it and I only wear the safety goggles for reading porn stories

Gary

 

[Alchemy]

and I only wear the safety goggles for reading porn stories

Gary

welding goggles I hope

 

[happyrat1]

Waterproof, splash proof, acid proof polycarbonate with a #20 tint.

Guaranteed to protect against nuclear blasts up to 20 megatons.

You can't be too careful with Swedish Pron man

Gary

 

[Alchemy]

Waterproof, splash proof, acid proof polycarbonate with a #20 tint.

Guaranteed to protect against nuclear blasts up to 20 megatons.

You can't be too careful with Swedish Pron man

Gary

polycarbonate isn't actually acid proof. I found that out once about 23 years ago. Let's just call it an "experiment."

 

[happyrat1]

I had a friend like you in high school. Let's just say he's lucky he never blew up his parent's house or ended up in federal-pound-yer-ass penitentiary

Myself I never messed around too much with chemical engineering. I'll stick with nice, safe, docile electrons thank you very much

(Though you would be the first one I'd call should the zombie apocalypse ever come to pass)

Gary

 

[Alchemy]

I doubt you had a friend like me but you should have and the "experiment" was simply attempting to temporarily store spent acid in a 2L bottle. I am also not fond of promotion of government enforced homosexual rape. Nor am I fond of grotesque porn humor. And the original "TOO" was not "like me" but "like the 'alchemy' you do.in your electronics" which should have seemed a compliment

 

[happyrat1]

Be that as it may, you do realize of course that alchemy was the medieval pursuit of attempting to turn base metals into gold and any groundbreaking discoveries which were ever made were totally blundered into and often at a horrible price.

I find the romanticizing of such a barbaric and and toxic history to be somewhat offputting as well.

Then again, to each his own I guess.

Gary